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Tonerider Alnico Ii Dejection, Analysis and Review

• Thread starter Antigua
• First date Dec 10, 2016

• #one

http://www.tonerider.com/alnico-ii-dejection-strat

This set from Tonerider is adequately dark, with hotter winds and AlNiCo ii pole pieces. This set has a lot in mutual with the Seymour Duncan Anituity I Texas Hots , though information technology costs much less than half the price, only lacks the cool aged look. Both sets utilise AlNiCo two pole pieces, and the resonant peaks of both sets are within 100Hz of the other, and the neck and center inductances are inside 100 henries, and the bridge withing 200H, despite the utilize of 43 AWG in the Texas Hots.

It's a well made set, with a capacitance measuring between 100pF and 110pF. The bottom bobbin looks and feels sort of like press board, while the top of the bobbin looks and feels like plastic. See the pics, judge for your cocky. That has no result on the electrical properties of the pickup, and then it's non a great concern. I all the same like it a lot amend than a total formed plastic bobbin. The AlNiCo pole pieces likewise accept a peculiarly shinny apperance, which might be visible in the moving picture in a higher place. It almost looks like their plated with something. The bottoms of the AlNiCo look adequately normal, though.

The fix it pretty dark, I favor the Tonerider Surfaris for something slightly hotter than "vintage". I've been trying to get away from these hotter sets, I had a lapse of sentence when I bought these, though I take to say, if you're going to have buyers remorse, much improve to be out $100, than $300.

Tonerider AlNiCo 2 Dejection Span
DC Resistance: 7.02K
Inductance: 3.623H
Calculated C: 102pF (112-10)

Resonant Peak: dV: 13.9dB f: 7.90kHz (black)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: v.6dB f: 3.24kHz (red)

Tonerider AlNiCo two Blues Middle
DC Resistance: half-dozen.43K
Inductance: three.084H
Calculated C: 110pF (120-10)

Resonant Height: dV: 13.1dB f: eight.27kHz (green)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: half-dozen.1dB f: 3.51kHz (greyness)

Tonerider AlNiCo ii Dejection Neck
DC Resistance: half-dozen.22K
Inductance: 2.994H
Calculated C: 106pF (116-10)

Resonant Tiptop: dV: 13.7dB f: 8.55kHz (pink)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: 6.1dB f: 3.55kHz (black)

Pole piece flux density: 600G-700G, AlNiCo 2

Bode plot:

Thanks again to Ken Willmott for designing and providing the integrator used to brand these bode plots.

• #ii

I've got Tonerider Classic Blues in two of my strats and they are fantastic.

• #three

Stick with them for a while Antigua, you might notice you like them given time.

I bought a similarly spec'd alnico 2 as the tonerider neck p'upwards, except mine is a no stagger p'upward. I had information technology installed in the bridge position, only to try something different. This was in my 50s classic serial strat. The maker/specifier had wanted to build a SC which would blend better with a hot humbucker bridge pickup, equally some of his customers had plant that the contrast betwixt humbucker in the bridge and vintage alnico five strat p'ups in the eye and neck too astringent. He likes them in the span position likewise, which was the prompt for me to try one.
I tin come across his thinking behind this, I think they would be a practiced match for an HSS guitar, and they exercise serve up something different in an SSS guitar.

I have reverted dorsum to stock p'ups on my strat, not because I didn't similar the alnico ii p'up, and I'm thinking information technology's time for another bandy.

Final edited: Dec x, 2016

• #4

I love my AII Blues. I have two Strats with the same set up in each, although the offset i I got was a prototype set and is slightly less hot in the bridge.

To me they have a actually nice midrange, which is more than prominent than the typical traditional Strat tones, but yet a Strat tone yet.

These pickups are near every bit hot every bit I'd ever wish to go for Strat pickups except an Artec runway pickup in another Strat of mine for a totally dissimilar vibe altogether.

I did some reviews and demos on my guitar web log.
http://www.thefenderblog.com/?s=tonerider

• #5

didnt they put alnico Ii'south or III's in the mia standard strats in the early on to mid ninety's. i actually like the ones in my 93.

Nate D

Most Honored Senior Member

• #half-dozen

http://www.tonerider.com/alnico-ii-blues-strat

This set from Tonerider is fairly dark, with hotter winds and AlNiCo 2 pole pieces. This set has a lot in common with the Seymour Duncan Anituity I Texas Hots , though information technology costs much less than one-half the toll, merely lacks the cool aged look. Both sets use AlNiCo ii pole pieces, and the resonant peaks of both sets are within 100Hz of the other, and the neck and middle inductances are within 100 henries, and the bridge withing 200H, despite the use of 43 AWG in the Texas Hots.

It's a well fabricated set, with a capacitance measuring between 100pF and 110pF. The bottom bobbin looks and feels sort of similar printing board, while the summit of the bobbin looks and feels like plastic. See the pics, judge for your self. That has no effect on the electrical properties of the pickup, so it's not a cracking concern. I notwithstanding like it a lot ameliorate than a total formed plastic bobbin. The AlNiCo pole pieces also have a particularly shinny apperance, which might be visible in the movie to a higher place. It nigh looks like their plated with something. The bottoms of the AlNiCo look fairly normal, though.

The set it pretty dark, I favor the Tonerider Surfaris for something slightly hotter than "vintage". I've been trying to get away from these hotter sets, I had a lapse of judgement when I bought these, though I have to say, if you lot're going to accept buyers remorse, much meliorate to be out $100, than $300.

Tonerider AlNiCo ii Blues Bridge
DC Resistance: 7.02K
Inductance: iii.623H
Calculated C: 102pF (112-10)

Resonant Peak: dV: 13.9dB f: 7.90kHz (blackness)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: v.6dB f: iii.24kHz (ruddy)

Tonerider AlNiCo two Blues Middle
DC Resistance: half-dozen.43K
Inductance: three.084H
Calculated C: 110pF (120-10)

Resonant Peak: dV: thirteen.1dB f: 8.27kHz (green)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: half dozen.1dB f: iii.51kHz (gray)

Tonerider AlNiCo 2 Blues Neck
DC Resistance: 6.22K
Inductance: ii.994H
Calculated C: 106pF (116-10)

Resonant Peak: dV: 13.7dB f: 8.55kHz (pink)
Loaded (200k & 470pF): dV: half-dozen.1dB f: 3.55kHz (black)

Pole piece flux density: 600G-700G, AlNiCo 2

Bode plot:

Thanks again to Ken Willmott for designing and providing the integrator used to make these bode plots.

Cheers for doing these!!!

Have you done/planning to do ane on Lollar Blondes?

• #7

Are these pickups in the threescore classic vibe ??

• #9

Dark/ laid-back equally they may be, do you think that highe value pots and lower value caps would bump up the resonance of them slightly?

• #10

Dark/ laid-back equally they may be, do you call up that highe value pots and lower value caps would bump up the resonance of them slightly?

Only a higher value pot will modify the resonance without effecting anything else. Merely exist fore warned, higher Q gene / resonance isn't actually nigh people'southward cup of tea. That's why i meg pots are pretty rare.

• #11

Just a higher value pot will change the resonance without effecting annihilation else. Just be fore warned, higher Q factor / resonance isn't really well-nigh people's loving cup of tea. That'south why 1 meg pots are pretty rare.

Cheers, mate! Well, it is that, isn't it. Figured that with the right values these could be bumped up 500Hz simply, like you said, they may be a chip peaky at that indicate. Such a shame as they seem quite ingeniously conceived salve for them existence only a touch dark.

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